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Wow. I'm so impressed with the current pope. I'm not Catholic, so I don't usually pay attention ... but some of the things he's saying *really* resonate with me.

For example, on my way to work the other day, I started daydreaming about owning a Harley IN ADDITION to my little Corolla. Now, mind you, I haven't paid off the Corolla, so this is a distant dream. And I wondered, as I daydreamed, if I should even consider ever getting a Harley.

How are his messages about materialism affecting you? Or are they? Everytime he hits the news, it hits me between the eyes with incredible force.

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    I think he's wonderful and I thank G-d for him every time I see something he has done.

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    To be honest, I'd be more impressed if he opened the Vatican's vaults and used their vast wealth to actually solve some of the misery in the world.

    It's easy to sit in a palace and lecture. I wanna see his soldiers in Darfur and his money in the slums, ghettos and barrios here.

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    Robynne wrote: To be honest, I'd be more impressed if he opened the Vatican's vaults and used their vast wealth to actually solve some of the misery in the world. It's easy to sit in a palace and lecture. I wanna see his soldiers in Darfur and his money in the slums, ghettos and barrios here.

    I'm impressed that he's given up the popemobile (for a more humble vehicle), he's taken the bus (while pope), he's given up his cape, and the "throne" (I don't actually know what that thing is called). I assume he theoretically has the "power" to open the Vatican vault, but he sure as hell has done a lot more than lecture.

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    Maggie wrote: I'm impressed that he's given up the popemobile (for a more humble vehicle), he's taken the bus (while pope), he's given up his cape, and the "throne" (I don't actually know what that thing is called). I assume he theoretically has the "power" to open the Vatican vault, but he sure as hell has done a lot more than lecture.

    None of the things he has done actually benefits anyone. They are gestures, which are definitely more than most other Popes have done.

    And I'm not saying that you shouldn't be impressed. But you asked: "How are his messages about materialism affecting you? Or are they?"

    I am answering that his messages do not affect me at all because not wearing a cape and taking the bus have zero impact on anyone who is actually suffering in this world, and he does have the power to create massive change.

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    Robynne wrote: To be honest, I'd be more impressed if he opened the Vatican's vaults and used their vast wealth to actually solve some of the misery in the world. It's easy to sit in a palace and lecture. I wanna see his soldiers in Darfur and his money in the slums, ghettos and barrios here.

    he's barely been pope 6 months. he has the rest of his life to give away the vatican coffers.

    Brynne, you're wrong and you know it. To suggest that this man practicing humility is not an example for all of his flock and will not change people's lives in some way is , well, like I said, wrong.
    and the people in Darfur don't affect you either, but his teachings to do the right thing WILL affect a priest in darfur.

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    Miss Beth wrote: he's barely been pope 6 months. he has the rest of his life to give away the vatican coffers. Brynne, you're wrong and you know it. To suggest that this man practicing humility is not an example for all of his flock and will not change people's lives in some way is , well, like I said, wrong. and the people in Darfur don't affect you either, but his teachings to do the right thing WILL affect a priest in darfur.

    Maggie didn't ask whether or not what the Pope was doing is right or wrong. She asked if it had any effect on us.

    I answered honestly. His gestures don't affect me.

    The suffering of the people in Darfur -- especially the women and children -- absolutely does have an effect on me. It has changed who I am as a writer, how I see many of the conventions of the kind of books and screenplays I want to write and what I actually choose to write about as well as what I am willing to pay money to read or to watch.

    I've made it a point not to argue here, you know I love you, and I'm happy to disagree with you, but WTF are you to tell me that my feelings are wrong?


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    Robynne wrote: Maggie didn't ask whether or not what the Pope was doing is right or wrong. She asked if it had any effect on us. I answered honestly. His gestures don't affect me. The suffering of the people in Darfur -- especially the women and children -- absolutely does have an effect on me. It has changed who I am as a writer, how I see many of the conventions of the kind of books and screenplays I want to write and what I actually choose to write about as well as what I am willing to pay money to read or to watch. I've made it a point not to argue here, you know I love you, and I'm happy to disagree with you, but WTF are you to tell me that my feelings are wrong?

    sorry to have come across so totally argumentative.

    By exactly your logic, his actions are ABSOLUTELY affecting people much like Darfur affects/ed you.

    It feels silly that you wouldn't insist the same.

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