Ask E. Jean - Tormented? Driven Witless? Whipsawed by confusion?

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I'm in a very foul mood - to fix this, I want to get a big ol' sappy thread full of Vixen love going.

So nobody feels excluded we'll do the say something nice about the person above you sort of thing.

Ready... Set... Go.

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    TM is a wonderful wife and mother and a loving, faithful friend.

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    you have an adorable baby, and a sweet, smiling face.

    ehv: has awesome and delicious profile pictures.

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    TM was a wonderful hostess to her husband's grandmother and aunt.

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    EhvWon = a constant source of laughter, support and companionship. Loyal and sincere.

    Claire - driven, successful and inspiring.

    Julia - would be a fabulous fantasy novelist.

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    Claire wrote: TM was a wonderful hostess to her husband's grandmother and aunt.

    claire is super hardcore and awesome in general

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    T.M. wrote: EhvWon = a constant source of laughter, support and companionship. Loyal and sincere. Claire - driven, successful and inspiring. Julia - would be a fabulous fantasy novelist.

    awww. thanks.

    for maximum sap, always include cute baby animals.


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    T.M. wrote: EhvWon = a constant source of laughter, support and companionship. Loyal and sincere. Claire - driven, successful and inspiring. Julia - would be a fabulous fantasy novelist.

    Thanks, Chica.

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    and the mime one is really really good, too.

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    Julia, you realize how obvious you are, right?

    Do you just not care that everyone here is forming a very ugly opinion of you?

    I mean, I get it, plenty of people love to run around the net and cause uproars, flaming is fun in many ways... but here? Not so much.

    I'm really quite curious about your behavior and what drives you to be like this.

    Are you unhappy? Bored? Insignificant?

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    T.M. wrote: Julia, you realize how obvious you are, right? Do you just not care that everyone here is forming a very ugly opinion of you? I mean, I get it, plenty of people love to run around the net and cause uproars, flaming is fun in many ways... but here? Not so much. I'm really quite curious about your behavior and what drives you to be like this. Are you unhappy? Bored? Insignificant?

    dude, I seriously thought you would like the mime video. did you even watch it? it's brilliant!

    I understand that you are looking for absolutely any excuse to jump down my throat. you really should get over yourself.



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    Julia wrote: dude, I seriously thought you would like the mime video. did you even watch it? it's brilliant! I understand that you are looking for absolutely any excuse to jump down my throat. you really should get over yourself.

    And about as relevant as you are.

    Lookit, I can edit too!


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    Julia wrote: and the mime one is really really good, too.

    Just not a very sauve move after the blow-up over your last retarted comment. If you did this on purpose to solicit a response, get over it. If you honestly put it up to be funny, then you just need to think a little longer about how they might be percieved by the others. I honestly cringed when I saw these after what happened yesterday.

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    T.M. wrote:

    and this is relevant, how?

    you do understand that had I posted that gif, you would have jumped my shit, right?

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    Grafelious wrote: Just not a very sauve move after the blow-up over your last retarted comment. If you did this on purpose to solicit a response, get over it. If you honestly put it up to be funny, then you just need to think a little longer about how they might be percieved by the others. I honestly cringed when I saw these after what happened yesterday.

    I was making light of yesterday. Because what happened yesterday was the biggest overreaction I have seen on here since the pubes thread.





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    Grafelious wrote: Just not a very sauve move after the blow-up over your last retarted comment. If you did this on purpose to solicit a response, get over it. If you honestly put it up to be funny, then you just need to think a little longer about how they might be percieved by the others. I honestly cringed when I saw these after what happened yesterday.

    She doesn't care if she offends people. She's an attention whore. Any attention, good or bad, is what she's after. She said it herself yesterday, she lays the bait out there and waits for people to respond. It's really pathetic and she'll have some pointless, defenseless response.

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    Julia wrote: and this is relevant, how? you do understand that had I posted that gif, you would have jumped my shit, right?

    That was in response to all of your pictures, which again, are irrelevant.

    You're just such a cancer, Julia. Shape up or do everyone a favor and ship out.

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    ehvwon wrote: She doesn't care if she offends people. She's an attention whore. Any attention, good or bad, is what she's after. She said it herself yesterday, she lays the bait out there and waits for people to respond. It's really pathetic and she'll have some pointless, defenseless response.

    and I didn't say what I said yesterday to solicit a response.


    that, however, didn't stop everyone from responding like a bunch of butthurt 12 year olds.


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    I won't ruin your mood with my comments re the stupid videos above.

    I will, however, tell you I have a new person to ignore!

    And hoping someone will get a real job or go back to school asap so that she can stop hogging all the threads with either ridiculous or ignorant or just plain stupid comments.

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    Sugah wrote: I won't ruin your mood with my comments re the stupid videos above. I will, however, tell you I have a new person to ignore! And hoping someone will get a real job or go back to school asap so that she can stop hogging all the threads with either ridiculous or ignorant or just plain stupid comments.

    Sugah amazes me b/c she is so unbelievably unconcerned with other people's opinion of her! I truly admire that :o)

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    T.M. wrote: That was in response to all of your pictures, which again, are irrelevant. You're just such a cancer, Julia. Shape up or do everyone a favor and ship out.

    I thought you would like the pictures, TM.


    You wanted a happy thread, I searched google to find you cute animals. it really was as simple as that.

    you seriously have a problem with reading into things too much.

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    This thread was meant to be about ALL Vixens... a nice way of saying things to and about one another.

    Yet I somehow had a feeling Julia, that you'd jump in head first and do your very best to make it all about you.

    Congratulations.

    Please, powers that be, delete this mess.

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    T.M. wrote: This thread was meant to be about ALL Vixens... a nice way of saying things to and about one another. Yet I somehow had a feeling Julia, that you'd jump in head first and do your very best to make it all about you. Congratulations. Please, powers that be, delete this mess.

    I give up.


    you are perhaps the biggest moron I have ever encountered in my entire existence.


    grow the fuck up.

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    I say don't delete it and just ignore!

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    Maggie wrote: Sugah amazes me b/c she is so unbelievably unconcerned with other people's opinion of her! I truly admire that :o)

    And thank you!

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    Sugah wrote: I say don't delete it and just ignore!

    Who said I wanted the thread deleted? ;)

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    T.M. wrote: Who said I wanted the thread deleted? ;)

    Ha! Misunderstanding.

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    and you guys wonder why AV rarely gets/keeps any newcomers that show up here.

    Coincidence?

    you guys are incapable of striking a balance between running around complementing each other incessantly, and jumping down each other's throats like a bunch of idiots.


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    I feel like a 12 yr old trapped in a 27 yr old body.


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    T.M. wrote: I feel like a 12 yr old trapped in a 27 yr old body.

    Not talking about her. I am talking about this ridiculous bitchery. there are probably 8-10 truly active people on here. Many of which are self-righteous, snide, and are unable to read something without trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.


    choose your battles, ladies. For the love of god.

    Or run the risk of this website dying because it so closely resembles a very exclusive sorority.

    I am not the cancer. Your attitudes are.


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    Sugah wrote: Ha! Misunderstanding.

    Back to the thread:

    Marlene is one of the most capable, straight forward women I've ever encountered. A perfect blend of hard and soft - depending on the situation, she can go either way with ease. An impressive trait.

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    Julia wrote: and you guys wonder why AV rarely gets/keeps any newcomers that show up here. Coincidence? you guys are incapable of striking a balance between running around complementing each other incessantly, and jumping down each other's throats like a bunch of idiots.

    Wrong. We welcome with open arms everyone who is new. Ask Bella, Bee, Whistlebait, Cane, Keka. They'll all tell you the same thing. They're not here to spam and stir shit and post senseless, inflammatory videos and grab attention on everyone's threads. They're here to give good advice and ask for help and be decent and friendly to everyone.

    And the ass sucking you claim to see is friendship. It might look foreign to you but we like and support each other.

    And if you had been decent and hadn't decided your mission here was to offend and piss people off, we'd be doing the same thing to you.

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    I was really excited to play
    along in this game.
    "Say something nice about
    the one above..."

    But it got totally out
    of hand...and turned into
    all sorts of negative stuff.
    Pshh.

    So nowwww...no one gets
    anything nice said about them
    by me! And I was so geared
    up with lots of yummy, delicious,
    you ROCK comments.

    (Even though...without saying...
    I still think most of you dooooo
    ROCK!)

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    ehvwon wrote: Wrong. We welcome with open arms everyone who is new. Ask Bella, Bee, Whistlebait, Cane, Keka. They'll all tell you the same thing. They're not here to spam and stir shit and post senseless, inflammatory videos and grab attention on everyone's threads. They're here to give good advice and ask for help and be decent and friendly to everyone. And the ass sucking you claim to see is friendship. It might look foreign to you but we like and support each other. And if you had been decent and hadn't decided your mission here was to offend and piss people off, we'd be doing the same thing to you.

    despite your accusations, I post lots of constructive advice on this website.

    you have chosen to overlook it in favor of what you would like to see.

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    Amanda wrote: I was really excited to play along in this game. "Say something nice about the one above..." But it got totally out of hand...and turned into all sorts of negative stuff. Pshh. So nowwww...no one gets anything nice said about them by me! And I was so geared up with lots of yummy, delicious, you ROCK comments. (Even though...without saying... I still think most of you dooooo ROCK!)

    you are one of the most positive people on here...

    thank you :)

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    Amanda wrote: I was really excited to play along in this game. "Say something nice about the one above..." But it got totally out of hand...and turned into all sorts of negative stuff. Pshh. So nowwww...no one gets anything nice said about them by me! And I was so geared up with lots of yummy, delicious, you ROCK comments. (Even though...without saying... I still think most of you dooooo ROCK!)

    That really toasts my cookie because I was looking most forward to your reply.

    Oh well, I still think you're maybe the nicest person on the planet and I truly admire your heart.

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    PS...TM...since you
    are the one in the foul
    mood...I just wanted
    to say that I hope you
    cheer up.
    (Because I know this thread
    probably isn't doing anyyyy
    good!)

    I hate waking up and
    just being in a tiff...
    because, eh, sometimes
    it happens! So go kiss
    that adorable little cherub
    face of your's...and watch
    her giggle...and hopefully
    that puts you in better spirits.
    Because that usually can
    do the trick!

    Hollla.

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    Amanda wrote: PS...TM...since you are the one in the foul mood...I just wanted to say that I hope you cheer up. (Because I know this thread probably isn't doing anyyyy good!) I hate waking up and just being in a tiff... because, eh, sometimes it happens! So go kiss that adorable little cherub face of your's...and watch her giggle...and hopefully that puts you in better spirits. Because that usually can do the trick! Hollla.

    Love you, Amanda.

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    Amanda wrote: PS...TM...since you are the one in the foul mood...I just wanted to say that I hope you cheer up. (Because I know this thread probably isn't doing anyyyy good!) I hate waking up and just being in a tiff... because, eh, sometimes it happens! So go kiss that adorable little cherub face of your's...and watch her giggle...and hopefully that puts you in better spirits. Because that usually can do the trick! Hollla.

    YOU cheer me up :)

    But for sure, after her nap time, I shall smooch away my foulness.

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    And TM, know that there will be a bunch of Vixens next week, sitting around talking about how much we wish you were with us. And I and most likely all of us, are still hoping you can make it. We'll just love bomb you until you can't handle it anymore! :-)

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    Grafelious wrote: And TM, know that there will be a bunch of Vixens next week, sitting around talking about how much we wish you were with us. And I and most likely all of us, are still hoping you can make it. We'll just love bomb you until you can't handle it anymore! :-)

    You are a doll.


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    Julia wrote: Not talking about her. I am talking about this ridiculous bitchery. there are probably 8-10 truly active people on here. Many of which are self-righteous, snide, and are unable to read something without trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill. choose your battles, ladies. For the love of god. Or run the risk of this website dying because it so closely resembles a very exclusive sorority. I am not the cancer. Your attitudes are.



    I have to wholeheartedly agree with Julia in here. This is getting boring, repetitive and completely sidetracking the site.

    Everybody has got to choose their battles, and their enemies.

    If you don't like someone's remarks, and it continues to be the same person, why keep on torturing everybody else with the same-old-damn-discussion? Please. Take it from who it comes and move the hell on.

    Everybody is a product of their circumstances. And if all potentially inflammatory or otherwise annoying comments were to be reacted on, this would be nothing but a site full full of neurotics who have nothing better to do.

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    ehvwon wrote: Wrong. We welcome with open arms everyone who is new. Ask Bella, Bee, Whistlebait, Cane, Keka. They'll all tell you the same thing. They're not here to spam and stir shit and post senseless, inflammatory videos and grab attention on everyone's threads. They're here to give good advice and ask for help and be decent and friendly to everyone. And the ass sucking you claim to see is friendship. It might look foreign to you but we like and support each other. And if you had been decent and hadn't decided your mission here was to offend and piss people off, we'd be doing the same thing to you.

    You are quite right, EhvWon, but, isn't it time to just let it go? If Julia seeks attention by annoying people, and people keeps getting annoyed, then the aim is reached.

    Don't we have better things to do than keep on jumping on a 19 year old? Dunno about you guys, but I sure as hell must have said and done some unfortunate things back in my youth.

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    Keka wrote: You are quite right, EhvWon, but, isn't it time to just let it go? If Julia seeks attention by annoying people, and people keeps getting annoyed, then the aim is reached. Don't we have better things to do than keep on jumping on a 19 year old? Dunno about you guys, but I sure as hell must have said and done some unfortunate things back in my youth.

    Yes, I do have better things to do, I come here to see my friends and offer some advice when asked. And when someone so blatantly tries to offend everyone here again and again, especially something as indefenseable as retarded people, then sorry, I am going to say something. And I'll keep saying something as long as it continues.

    This was a thread to bring out the good in people but because TM called her on her shit yesterday, she decided to destroy this thread.

    I ignore 99.9% of what she says but making cracks and posting videos about retarded people, especially because I have a 19 year old niece with Down Syndrome, is something I cannot abide.

    Call me a bitch or whatever else you want to.

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    Keka wrote: You are quite right, EhvWon, but, isn't it time to just let it go? If Julia seeks attention by annoying people, and people keeps getting annoyed, then the aim is reached. Don't we have better things to do than keep on jumping on a 19 year old? Dunno about you guys, but I sure as hell must have said and done some unfortunate things back in my youth.

    and I never meant to offend anyone. It's one of those situations where you can't do anything right. No matter what you do. This whole shebang is more about overreaction than anything else. Even I know not to jump headfirst into a stupid argument like some people here seem to do every day. It just isn't worth the aggravation.

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    ehvwon wrote: Yes, I do have better things to do, I come here to see my friends and offer some advice when asked. And when someone so blatantly tries to offend everyone here again and again, especially something as indefenseable as retarded people, then sorry, I am going to say something. And I'll keep saying something as long as it continues. This was a thread to bring out the good in people but because TM called her on her shit yesterday, she decided to destroy this thread. I ignore 99.9% of what she says but making cracks and posting videos about retarded people, especially because I have a 19 year old niece with Down Syndrome, is something I cannot abide. Call me a bitch or whatever else you want to.

    I didn't come here to destroy this thread. This thread started with me posting something nice about everybody, and posting a few pictures of cute critters.


    I did that in good faith. I regret it now.

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    ehvwon wrote: Yes, I do have better things to do, I come here to see my friends and offer some advice when asked. And when someone so blatantly tries to offend everyone here again and again, especially something as indefenseable as retarded people, then sorry, I am going to say something. And I'll keep saying something as long as it continues. This was a thread to bring out the good in people but because TM called her on her shit yesterday, she decided to destroy this thread. I ignore 99.9% of what she says but making cracks and posting videos about retarded people, especially because I have a 19 year old niece with Down Syndrome, is something I cannot abide. Call me a bitch or whatever else you want to.

    No I have no intention to call you a bitch at all. I just think you are way too smart to keep on focusing on a 19 yr old.

    TM has made unfortunate and inflammatory senseless comments in the past which I didn't like, and then twist them and apologized and whatnot, the very same thing she called Julia out for yesterday. You asked me to let it go, I did, and now its all smooth and dandy, I just take it from where it comes.
    So, what irritates me is not what irritates you, but perhaps you could see the bigger picture and just let it go. There are so many more fun, interesting things to talk about!!!

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    Keka wrote: No I have no intention to call you a bitch at all. I just think you are way too smart to keep on focusing on a 19 yr old. TM has made unfortunate and inflammatory senseless comments in the past which I didn't like, and then twist them and apologized and whatnot, the very same thing she called Julia out for yesterday. You asked me to let it go, I did, and now its all smooth and dandy, I just take it from where it comes. So, what irritates me is not what irritates you, but perhaps you could see the bigger picture and just let it go. There are so many more fun, interesting things to talk about!!!

    Keka is cool, diplomatic, and has an awesome shoe collection...


    (I am dropping this bitchery nonsense and going back to my original intent.)



    spreading love and cute animals!!

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    "TM has made unfortunate and inflammatory senseless comments in the past which I didn't like, and then twist them and apologized and whatnot, the very same thing she called Julia out for yesterday."

    I really have no idea what you're talking about. All I remember is it being a race thread and something I said wasn't received well by you. I know I apologized to you, but never once have I changed a post. Keka, you're a bright woman, surely you can understand that your getting fired up over something insensitive that I said regarding race is no different than other's getting fired up over inflammatory, deliberately mean things being said about retarded people.

    My apology to you was sincere. I've no shame admitting when i'm wrong. I really am not sure how that situation and this one are the same. I didn't do it deliberately, I wasn't proud of offending you, and I learned a lesson about being more thoughtful in my comments regarding sensitive issues.

    I don't think anyone here appreciates when a thread they created with honest intentions gets turned into what this one, and MANY others have become.

    One thing I will agree with is that ignoring is the only and best option.

    Something I shall start doing from here on in.

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    "deliberately mean things being said about retarded people"

    not deliberately mean. Those videos were directed by a 23 year old guy with Down's Syndrome (the cop) and are obviously tongue in cheek. He enjoys making light of his condition, as well as discrimination in general... ie: he made a video about racial profiling, in which he was "discriminating" against an African American man. His videos are subversive, funny, and definitely make a point about discrimination.

    Which is why I thought you would enjoy them.

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    TM: beautiful, witty, and has the most adorable daughter ever.
    AV1: a legend! Always funny with great advice.
    Claire: a freaking hero. anybody with that kind of drive deserves big things.
    Julia: not afraid to be different, an excellent artist
    Amanda: always cheers everybody up, gaurenteed to make somebody smile
    Keka: freaking stunning. like seriously, gorgeous
    Sugah:always one for excellent, sound advice
    Hunt: Always positive, great advice
    Maggie: Down to earth, funny, and flat out, cool.


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    Diana wrote: Bee: She's prettyful.

    Diana: has really coolarific braids.

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    Bee wrote: TM: beautiful, witty, and has the most adorable daughter ever. AV1: a legend! Always funny with great advice. Claire: a freaking hero. anybody with that kind of drive deserves big things. Julia: not afraid to be different, an excellent artist Amanda: always cheers everybody up, gaurenteed to make somebody smile Keka: freaking stunning. like seriously, gorgeous Sugah:always one for excellent, sound advice Hunt: Always positive, great advice Maggie: Down to earth, funny, and flat out, cool.

    Thanks Bee. xxx

    Bee has the bestest nail polish ever.

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    Bee wrote: TM: beautiful, witty, and has the most adorable daughter ever. AV1: a legend! Always funny with great advice. Claire: a freaking hero. anybody with that kind of drive deserves big things. Julia: not afraid to be different, an excellent artist Amanda: always cheers everybody up, gaurenteed to make somebody smile Keka: freaking stunning. like seriously, gorgeous Sugah:always one for excellent, sound advice Hunt: Always positive, great advice Maggie: Down to earth, funny, and flat out, cool.

    Bee....
    Thanks so much for the note.

    TM......
    Sorry you are having such a crappy day. They happen. Can you get in some exercise to boost your mood.....and get your body in shape for an activity that will boost it even more???

    I know that when a funk hits, it's hard to take the long view, but I try to refocus my energies. Even taking of one small item helps.

    So does looking at something amazing like a flower or the sunset.

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    Yeay!! I "get" Claire.

    Claire= Dignity
    Integrity
    Compassionate
    Wisdom

    I like the way Claire gives advice. I have never EVER seen Claire put someone down in an insulting way or gang against any Vixens.
    She can be tough. Her advice is straight on. Sometimes it may not be what you want to hear but, given with so much integrity.
    THAT is integrity and wisdom
    I like Claire's amazing life adventure, how she bikes for miles.

    Claire inspires me to grow and be better.
    (I LUV Maggie and Sonia too, but they are not above me)

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    OMG I just read a little bit of the thread.....I don't know what happened yesterday but Julia, RETARDED is not a cool word to use. I work with special needs children and teens, and THAT word is VERY insulting to them. My own child (the one born at 5 mons) May or may not have mental retardation, But either way I completely condone the usage of that word

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    Ua wrote: OMG I just read a little bit of the thread.....I don't know what happened yesterday but Julia, RETARDED is not a cool word to use. I work with special needs children and teens, and THAT word is VERY insulting to them. My own child (the one born at 5 mons) May or may not have mental retardation, But either way I completely condone the usage of that word

    In high school I worked with kids in the Special Education wing.


    And TO CONDONE means to accept or encourage. I don't think you meant to say that.


    condone- v.

    1. to disregard or overlook (something illegal, objectionable, or the like).
    2. to give tacit approval to: By his silence, he seemed to condone their behavior.
    3. to pardon or forgive (an offense); excuse.
    4. to cause the condonation of.
    5. Law. to forgive or act so as to imply forgiveness of (a violation of the marriage vow).


    Political correctness arises from the fool assumption that it is possible to make everyone happy at the same time.
    The declared rationale of this tyranny is to prevent people from being offended; to compel everyone to avoid using words or behavior that may upset homosexuals, women, non-whites, the crippled, the stupid, the fat or the ugly. This reveals not only its absurdity but its inspiration.

    The phenomena is merely the resentment of spoiled children directed against their parent's values.

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    T.M. wrote: I feel like a 12 yr old trapped in a 27 yr old body.

    are you 12 fucking years old? why don't you stop moping about not having a life, get off your damn computer, and play with your amazingly cute kid instead of starting nonsense on the internet all day long?


    I work an office job. What's your excuse for being on here all day?



    Grow up. Seriously.

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    Ua wrote: Yeay!! I "get" Claire. Claire= Dignity Integrity Compassionate Wisdom I like the way Claire gives advice. I have never EVER seen Claire put someone down in an insulting way or gang against any Vixens. She can be tough. Her advice is straight on. Sometimes it may not be what you want to hear but, given with so much integrity. THAT is integrity and wisdom I like Claire's amazing life adventure, how she bikes for miles. Claire inspires me to grow and be better. (I LUV Maggie and Sonia too, but they are not above me)

    Thank you Lola....

    A lot of this has to do with the training I have had. When I had a team of direct reports, I held plan and reviews with each person on a monthly basis. You just can't piss people off and deliver results effectively.

    You often have to tell people stuff they don't want to hear to say nothing of figuring out how to get through to them in a way that will be helpful.

    Interesting how I did this with my friend today. I called him back after having a think about the situation. (BTW - he is the best person I have EVER seen at giving feedback and garnering trust.) I laid it on the line. I told him that I was seriously concerned about what he had shared with me and that my take was that his grandson could DIE if he doesn't get the right treatment and that I don't think they have any time to lose. He thanked me.

    To continue with my initial train of thought, I know that sometimes tempers get frayed and that some people get a bit unhinged from crappy days.

    However, I do think some of the posts on this thread could have gotten the message across better if the writer had taken the high road. Just something to think about.

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    Claire: Quite possibly the perfect human

    Remember the commercial about The Banana, quite possibly the world's most perfect food? That's how I fee about Claire

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    Raven wrote: Claire: Quite possibly the perfect human Remember the commercial about The Banana, quite possibly the world's most perfect food? That's how I fee about Claire

    Thank you Raven, but trust me, I do have my faults.

    I try not to advertise them though :)

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    Wow. Dra-ma.

    Let's talk about men and how crappy THEY are now.

    :)

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    Julia wrote: In high school I worked with kids in the Special Education wing. And TO CONDONE means to accept or encourage. I don't think you meant to say that. condone- v. 1. to disregard or overlook (something illegal, objectionable, or the like). 2. to give tacit approval to: By his silence, he seemed to condone their behavior. 3. to pardon or forgive (an offense); excuse. 4. to cause the condonation of. 5. Law. to forgive or act so as to imply forgiveness of (a violation of the marriage vow). Political correctness arises from the fool assumption that it is possible to make everyone happy at the same time. The declared rationale of this tyranny is to prevent people from being offended; to compel everyone to avoid using words or behavior that may upset homosexuals, women, non-whites, the crippled, the stupid, the fat or the ugly. This reveals not only its absurdity but its inspiration. The phenomena is merely the resentment of spoiled children directed against their parent's values.

    Ha ha ha Obviously I was using the word completely in a wrong way I though "condone" was like the spanish "condenar" or in frenc "condoner" but I better look it up cause I am forgetting french as well.

    So after correcting my verbal ignorance, let me note:

    You say "Political correctness arises from the fool assumption that it is possible to make everyone happy at the same time. "

    I say "human correctedness or righteousness arises from the noble intention of treating eveybody with dignity and respect (at the same time (or not)



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